Greta Van Susteren should do some research before demonizing Louis C.K.

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UPDATE: 6:30 pm — Louis C.K. has pulled out of the event. He will not be performing.

Last night, Fox News anchor Greta Van Susteren took to her official blog GretaWire to proudly proclaim that she will not be attending the Radio and Television Correspondents Association Dinner on June 8 in Washington D.C. In fact, she’s flat-out refusing to go. She’s also pleading with her fellow journalists to boycott the event altogether. So why is the veteran newswoman hurling so much vitriol toward the mostly-benign, wholly masturbatory black tie affair?

The answer: Louis C.K.

Arguably the most beloved comedian of the moment, C.K. is set to headline the dinner, slinging jokes for some of the most powerful politicians in the country as well as the reporters who cover their every move. And, Van Susteren isn’t having it. Although I’m not sure why she’s chosen now to say something – C.K.’s participation was announced in December of last year – the point is, she’s got plenty to say, as is evidenced below (the emphasis is mine):

The headliner of this year’s Radio and Television Correspondents Dinner is “comedian” Louis C.K. Comedian? I don’t think so. Pig? yes.

He uses filthy language about women…..yes, the C word…and yes, even to describe a woman candidate for Vice President of the United States. It isn’t just Governor Palin he denigrates. He denigrates all women and looks to the crowd to laugh.

I refuse to show any support for this guy or for the Radio and Television Correspondents Association Dinner Committee who hired him. I think the organization that hired him is just as bad as he is. It is no secret that he denigrates women.

The conspiracy theorist in me believes this is some sort of subterfuge in order to deflect some of the media’s attention away from fellow conservative media personality Rush Limbaugh (you know, because of that whole ‘slut’ thing). The more logical part of me sees this as yet another example of the mainstream media attempting to create pointed commentary and criticism around subject matter they know nothing about—simply to promote themselves and ultimately brand themselves as some kind of moral crusader. And if they (or Greta, in this case) need to vilify someone to accomplish this, so be it.

The situation reminds me a lot of people’s reaction to the kind of music I listened to as a youth (and still do): bands like Iron Maiden,  Testament, Megadeth and Anthrax. Kids who didn’t listen to that stuff and a lot of adults called it “devil music” and claimed it was violent and angry—simply because of the way it sounded. But if they stopped to actually listen, they’d realize I was getting an education on how racism is horrible, how war without reason is wrong and even how we should respect the planet (and that was more than a decade before “eco-friendly” was a bankable concept).

You can rip just about anything out of context and squeeze out of it whatever agenda-supporting “evidence” you need. Fundamental Christians do it all the time with the Bible, namely with Leviticus, from which most of the anti-gay rhetoric originates. Sure, part of the book says, “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” What the hate mongers who yell this shit at rallies ignore is its historical context. It was written at a time after the Jews were delivered out of enslavement in Egypt and they, as a culture, were attempting to create and maintain their own identities— and part of that meant creating new life. It was a “law” of logistics—not one based on disgust for one man putting his penis inside another. If the act of male-to-male sexual intercourse would yield a baby every so often, those folks would’ve probably embraced the act. But these fundamentalists, like Van Susteren, use what works for them and pretends all competing evidence doesn’t exist. You never see one of these Christians waving a sign emblazoned with the words, “When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening.”

And while I’m writing about context. Here’s some context on Van Susteren. She and her husband, attorney John P. Coale, are close friends with Palin. In fact, Coale reportedly served as an adviser to Palin during her run for vice president. So, is Van Susteren really standing up for denigrated women everywhere—or is she simply sticking up for her pal? My cynical side tells me Palin was the one who alerted Van Susteren to C.K.’s remarks and urged her to ban the RTCA dinner because of them.

And if Van Susteren wants to talk about the ethical implications of C.K.’s words, let’s pause a moment to glance at the newswoman’s professional ethics: While certainly more levelheaded than a lot of her Fox News cohorts, Van Susteren has regularly interviewed Palin on Fox News. Tell me: Should a journalist – charged to remain “fair and balanced” – be interviewing her friends? Van Susteren even came under fire in November while covering Herman Cain’s presidential bid without revealing her husband’s friendship with Cain. And although Van Susteren eventually denied it, reports surfaced that Cain had retained her husband for an official consulting position.

So, what else does Van Susteren have to say about one of the most well-respected comedians of all time?

Here is a sample of what he said about Governor Sarah Palin and you tell me whether any member of the media should sit in the crowd while he speaks to them:

Louis C.K. says of Palin: “her f*** retard making c***” and “the baby that just came out of her f**** disgusting c***.”
To Palin: just “stick your t** in its mouth and shut up.”
And here is more: ”…her f***** retard making c****”

Need more to convince you? Here is what he says on twitter:
“I want to rub my father’s c*** all over Sarah Palin’s fat t***”

By the way, there is more, lots more.

There sure is more, Greta. And maybe you should’ve actually listened to “more” – that is, if you listened to anything at all — before demonizing a man for a few crass comments he made on a radio show. That’s right, folks. These aren’t even lines from his act. It’s all from an appearance on SiriusXM’s Opie and Anthony Show from December of 2010; it came a few days after his now-infamous drunken airplane tweeting, when he typed a series of gibberish and incredibly silly (and surely blue) jokes about Sarah Palin. And by the way, he later told GQ he regretted typing those things.

Like most everything’s-black-or-white-minded types, Van Susteren didn’t bother doing any contextual research before she unleashed her own hateful rant. If she had, she would know that C.K. has two young daughters and speaks about them honestly and lovingly throughout his stand-up shows and on his FX series Louie. He comes nowhere close to denigrating “all women.” In fact, he does quite the opposite. When he was married, C.K. talked onstage about how he loved his wife and found her sexier than ever after she gave birth to their children. Upon his divorce, C.K. made a conscious effort to leave his wife out of his act completely, to respect her privacy. And throughout his entire career, he’s regularly poked fun at men for their seemingly inherent shallowness. To a larger extent, C.K. makes fun of himself, continuously painting a self portrait of a man with a terrible body who is not at all physically attractive to the fairer sex and can offer little to nothing to a romantic relationship.

Van Susteren also failed to recognize that C.K. gave away $280,000 of his profits from his latest stand-up special Live at the Beacon to five charities around the world; $40,000 went to the Fistula Foundation, which aims to raise money for women – just women – in developing nations so that they can afford life-saving medical treatments.

Greta. Your attempted character assassination is ill-founded and promotes ignorance and hate—much the same way in which you claim C.K. has. I urge you to please stick to proper political journalism and analysis. And on a more personal level, you might want to be more transparent with yourself and surely more forthcoming to your viewers and Internet followers. You might want to get in touch with C.K. He can give you some advice about being honest.

About the Author

Dylan P. Gadino

Dylan is the founder and editor in chief of Laughspin. He launched Punchline Magazine in 2005 (which became Laughspin in the summer of 2011) with childhood friend Bill Bergmann. Dylan lives in northern New Jersey with his wife and two sons. He hopes the Shire is real.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGIN7OZ65OQMCYAV4CBZAJMUMI Mike Dufort

    Sometimes when Greta gets REALLY mad, you can almost — ALMOST — see a hint of an expression on her face.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JOWVAEYAV77DOUC53XOTKZOYDA Bangsmoke

    Here’s another “ethical” problem with Van Susterereren and her husband—they’re both Church of Scientology robots.

  • Tym 1

    OH MY GOSH! Please tell me this whole article is in jest! If any part of this is sincere we are really going down the toilet as a civilized society. His comments are disgusting in any context and not edifying or uplifting in any way, ANY WAY! this is all so depressing! I feel dumber just for having stopped by and reading this article! Hooray for Greta!

  • Peter Greco

    Dylan, I am bringing to you an issue that, without your help could become  a international disgrace,  or maybe a national disappointment, or actually maybe something like a small regional nuisance.  When my wife and I planned our trip to Italy we were struck with how seriously all of the travel guides authors took themselves, and frankly how lame their senses of humor were . When I broadened my search, I noticed that the publishing world in general seems to have pretty much turned away from publishing anything funny, unless it was a collection of used stand up material, or a 30% laughs and 70% filler fluff from  celebrities  like Chelsea Handler. Thankfully, my co-author Dean “Dino” D’Adamo and I have decided to pursue a national effort to get funny back on the book shelves. We’ve started by writing and publishing an account of our vacation entitled, The Italian Journals: Where to Go, What to Eat, and Who to Leave at Home . It is half travel guide for Rome, Florence, and Venice, and half failed sociology experiment. To be honest the book is funny because we realized almost as soon as we landed in Rome that while our wives are good friends, Dino and I are like a couple of drunks on ice skates; you know it’s going to end painfully,  but it’s just too funny to stop watching.

    We think the book is entertaining even if you aren’t going to Italy. It is  the kind of thing people will see as $18.95 well spent, or at least they’ll say it could have been worse, they could have spent $20.00 for the damn thing,  whatever.  Of course the huge corporate  publishers, and mid -sized  publishers, the small publishers and every literary agent on the East Coast has said they don’t think there is a market for our book, and Oprah is off the air so what the hell chance do we have?  Well, we aren’t giving up. We have amassed a huge mailing list of  every travel writer, every book reviewer and every local TV show that we can think of to carry on our fight to make  funny books the dominant items  on the best sellers list… or at least our funny book on somebody’s betseller list. Since neither of us are very smart or aware of anything, that mailing list consists of about eleven names, some of which we think are dead people. But you, Jennifer are on that list. Will you help us?

    How? By agreeing to do a review of the book and perhaps an interview with me for the paper. I would suggest an interview with Dino and me, but you seem nice, so why should I ruin your day? If this seems like as good as an idea to you as it was to me when I was the last guy to leave the Yardley Inn Saturday night, then please reply to this blog. We could have a brief chat on the phone, I can provide you with a  copy of the book, and you could be on the ground floor of a major media phenomenon, althou gh that last part would probably have to deal with some other news item you happen to be involved with at the same time you are helping us with this book and funny business thing. Regardless, it will certainly distract at least for a few minutes.

    Thank you very much for your consideration, i look forward to hearing from you .

    Peter Greco

  • rman

    “One of the most respected comedians of all time?”  And how long have you been around?  You are an idiot for making that statement.  About 30 years ago nasty started to become funny.  Over the years it has become easier to be nasty funny than to be really funny.  Your guy m ay be at the top of that list, but respected?  You should get a better life, we’d all be better off if you did.  

  • Suicidejimmy

     Rush was not joking! I don’t think Louis is either, but he doing it in a comedy format, which gives him more credibility to say it was just a joke. I say a lot of things on stage that I really mean, but I try to say them in a funny way. Louis is very uncouth & harsh at times, which is what I like about him. Greta may not care for his style of comedy & choose to boycott the function, though I think forming an opinion based upon one or two excerpts is quite ignorant. I’m pretty sure the rest of the people will decide for themselves whether or not to go. I hope she boosted their curiosity & they go with an open mind to have some fun instead of being an uptight C*NT like her. 

    • TXgirl

      Suicidejimmy, you don’t listen to Rush so how would you know he was not joking? He uses humor and metaphor to make his points, particularly when he’s illustrating the absurdity of leftist positions. This CK guy was just engaged in an all out hateful rant. For this Dylan person to attempt to defend this guy just goes to show how the comedy world has sunk to such low levels as to think this is humor, whether it’s said on a radio show, on stage, wherever. The fact that this man (CK) speaks lovingly about his wife and daughters and how he likes to keep them out of the act to “respect her (their) privacy” makes these statements even more egregious. I’m glad this pig was dropped from the correspondents dinner and Greta can be credited for that!  

  • Boogalie

    ‘Most respected comedian of all time..” Well, never heard of the guy until this erupted. But, certainly have heard enough. From your writing I would bet your humility guage is on empty. Sir, bless you and your family, and may the grace of God shine upon you, I will pray that you find your way….by the way, don’t be afraid of asking for help with the Gospel. Semper Fi.

  • En1mac

    EVERYONE worships a god. Who’s your god? Money, entertainers, yourself? Good luck with those. God Bless
      

    • http://twitter.com/ekimnamwen mike n

       you know what’s funny? the god of the bible is nothing more than your ego. you’re worshipping your own ego if you believe in the bible.

  • Carreet

    people can make fun of whoever they want. if ck wants to call a woman a cunt and it’s funny to people listening, guess what good for him. if limbaugh wants to call a girl a slut (although i dont think he was making a joke it seemed more out of anger) to be funny that’s fine too. there are consequences for what you say and if you want to get fired for calling a woman a cunt or a slut than that’s the line you decided to defend. yes they are allowed to, yes sometimes it’s funny to say those things, yes people might choose to be offended and try and get you fired or black listed.  those are the ropes. who gives a fuck. it’s probably great for rush’s career in the long run. when has he gotten this much attention in the last 10 years? ck on the other hand is at the top of his game and can only go down anyway but he’ll probably pull out of this just fine because he is actually a highly intelligent person where rush is sort of dumb (lets just be honest).  sometimes calling people a cunt is funny. all words and insults calling can be funny. it’s been proven time and time again. it’s a fact. besides why not be proud to be a slut instead of insulted it makes the word less powerful. the same with all insults really.  you’re not going to change the mind of the insulter. 

    • Jasonwaynecomedy

      I’m for free speech. I have defended Limbaugh in his comments (even though I’m a democrat) and I of course love Louis. I say you can say whatever you want, especially in an artform such as radio or stand up. As for Louis hosting the event, all that matters is he an A list funny guy. And he is. I’d hire him in a second, he’s one of the funniest guys around. If you don’t like free speech, you don’t like comedy.

      I don’t care what people say in their lives, just are they good at their jobs. Take Tom Cruise. Is he a bit crazy, yes. Is he an awesome movie star yes. Well if i’m watching a movie that’s all i need. With Louis the question is just is he a kickass comedian, yes of course he is. That’s all. As for Limbaugh, I don’t listen to him so I don’t really care about him. For him calling a girl a slut, so fucking what. It’s on the radio which is a hard job, and a 30 year old woman surely must’ve bene called a slut before and should be able to take some idiot calling her a slut. She’s an adult.

  • ben

    uhhhh

    greta….. sarah palin REALLY DOES HAVE A CHINESSE FAMILY LIVING IN HER FUCKING CUNT.  

    it’s a FACT.

    Louis was pointing out something that was true.  oh wait, foxnews lies.  

  • Possum Roadkill

    Here is the deal. I’ve heard of Louis C.K. and I’ve heard of Greta Van Sustren. I don’t know who the hell you are and what you think you know about much of anything so shut the hell up and stay out of it. She has every right to speak out against this kind of abusive language. How many things did you say about Limbaugh? Oh yeah I bet you had plenty to say then right? This kind of crap needs to stop and you are on the wrong side asshole.

  • TheLastBrainLeft

    This is the stupid can of worms that the left opened when they went after Rush. I am neither a fanboy or detractor of Louis CK, but you can expect stuff like this whenever a left-leaning person makes nasty jokes about conservative women. Sometimes the collateral damage from an attack on an enemy is worse than leaving said enemy intact.

    You simply cannot defend Louis CK and attack Limbaugh at the same time. It smacks of hypocrisy.

  • TheLastBrainLeft

    This is the stupid can of worms that the left opened when they went after Rush. I am neither a fanboy or detractor of Louis CK, but you can expect stuff like this whenever a left-leaning person makes nasty jokes about conservative women. Sometimes the collateral damage from an attack on an enemy is worse than leaving said enemy intact.

    You simply cannot defend Louis CK and attack Limbaugh at the same time. It smacks of hypocrisy.

  • Kate_Sedgwick

    I think this article is terrific, though I don’t think that all C.K.’s material about this daughters is “loving.”  I think C.K. could be called a feminist, actually, but let’s not say that calling your daughter an asshole onstage is a “loving” thing to do.

  • Kate_Sedgwick

    I think this article is terrific, though I don’t think that all C.K.’s material about this daughters is “loving.”  I think C.K. could be called a feminist, actually, but let’s not say that calling your daughter an asshole onstage is a “loving” thing to do.

    • Dylan

      i said he speaks about them lovingly. and he does. i didn’t say everything he says about his kids is loving.

    • Dylan

      i said he speaks about them lovingly. and he does. i didn’t say everything he says about his kids is loving.

      • juls

        Yes, he lovingly calls them assholes. Kids can be arseholes, it doesn’t mean we don’t love them. His honesty is a huge part of his appeal.

        • Ksim43

          Exactly. What he’s doing is exposing the ideas civilians think and feel everyday and are ashamed of. By doing that, he’s allowing us to laugh at what we fear or guilty about, see that it’s nothing more than being human. It’s called catharsis, and that he does it so well is why he is as acclaimed and popular (which is not always the same as quality, but in this case they overlap) as he is.

      • juls

        Yes, he lovingly calls them assholes. Kids can be arseholes, it doesn’t mean we don’t love them. His honesty is a huge part of his appeal.

  • Taylor

    This is ridiculous. It is perfectly acceptable for Greta Van Susteren to not like Louis C.K. and for her to share those opinions.

    • Dylan

      it’s fine to not like C.K. and to express those feelings. that’s not what she did. she’s attempting to assassinate a person’s character by quoting a few things he said, out of context for her own professional gain.

      • TheLastBrainLeft

        Limbaugh is quoted out of context ALL THE TIME. Sometimes the quotes attributed to him aren’t even real. 

        Goose, gander. Teachable moment. Learn from it.

        • Cattatt13

          Two wrongs, right. Think about it.

        • Cattatt13

          Two wrongs, right. Think about it.

        • Ksim43

          Actually, Limbaugh is not quoted out of context. His context is usually pretty plain.

      • TheLastBrainLeft

        Limbaugh is quoted out of context ALL THE TIME. Sometimes the quotes attributed to him aren’t even real. 

        Goose, gander. Teachable moment. Learn from it.

      • Taylor

        Do you honestly think that this woman’s comments are going to ruin C.K.’s career? Come on. It’s harmless. The people who watch her are probably not going to enjoy C.K. anyways. Who cares. This is nothingness. Not worth a post.

      • Taylor

        Do you honestly think that this woman’s comments are going to ruin C.K.’s career? Come on. It’s harmless. The people who watch her are probably not going to enjoy C.K. anyways. Who cares. This is nothingness. Not worth a post.

    • Dylan

      it’s fine to not like C.K. and to express those feelings. that’s not what she did. she’s attempting to assassinate a person’s character by quoting a few things he said, out of context for her own professional gain.

  • Taylor

    This is ridiculous. It is perfectly acceptable for Greta Van Susteren to not like Louis C.K. and for her to share those opinions.

  • Steve

    Van Susteren is silly for trying to boycott CK there’s still a great deal of hypocrisy in this article that criticizes someone for not doing research.  How much research has this author done about The Bible?  Leviticus 18 deals with far more forms of sex that for purposes of reproduction.  Levitucs forbids sex with a neighbors wife.  This is for moral reasons.  It’s inconsistent to say that in one instance Leviticus is about protecting Jewish culture while in other instances it’s about morality.  The author stated an opinion (just like Van Susteren gave her opinion) that Leviticus is trying to make a
    moral law only due to reproduction.  This could be said about anything
    in The Bible and isn’t grounded in fact.  There are more than one instance of The Bible mentioning homosexuality.  What about Romans 1 or the First Epistle to the Corinthians?  Perhaps try doing some research instead of spreading ignorance about others religious views.

  • Steve

    Van Susteren is silly for trying to boycott CK there’s still a great deal of hypocrisy in this article that criticizes someone for not doing research.  How much research has this author done about The Bible?  Leviticus 18 deals with far more forms of sex that for purposes of reproduction.  Levitucs forbids sex with a neighbors wife.  This is for moral reasons.  It’s inconsistent to say that in one instance Leviticus is about protecting Jewish culture while in other instances it’s about morality.  The author stated an opinion (just like Van Susteren gave her opinion) that Leviticus is trying to make a
    moral law only due to reproduction.  This could be said about anything
    in The Bible and isn’t grounded in fact.  There are more than one instance of The Bible mentioning homosexuality.  What about Romans 1 or the First Epistle to the Corinthians?  Perhaps try doing some research instead of spreading ignorance about others religious views.

    • http://twitter.com/ekimnamwen mike n

      Steve, telling someone to research the Bible is like telling someone to research a fairy tale. There is very little about the Bible that is factual, it is a book written by flawed men on hallucinogens. By the way, if you believe in the “facts” of the Bible, then you must believe that donkeys can talk. Oh wait, I bet you haven’t read that verse in the New Testament. The Bible is full of bullshit like that that you Bible thumpers choose to ignore.

      And this whole liberal vs conservative thing is fucking stupid. Wake up people, your ideological biases make you look stupid b/c there is really no difference in republican or democrat. The only difference is in talk, not action. They are the different sides of the same fucking coin. American politics is just as dumb as professional sports. It’s the red team vs the blue team and members of each team will defend their teammates no matter what, totally ignoring all logic and facts.

      Also, comparing a comedian to a political commentator is beyond ignorant.

    • http://twitter.com/ekimnamwen mike n

      Steve, telling someone to research the Bible is like telling someone to research a fairy tale. There is very little about the Bible that is factual, it is a book written by flawed men on hallucinogens. By the way, if you believe in the “facts” of the Bible, then you must believe that donkeys can talk. Oh wait, I bet you haven’t read that verse in the New Testament. The Bible is full of bullshit like that that you Bible thumpers choose to ignore.

      And this whole liberal vs conservative thing is fucking stupid. Wake up people, your ideological biases make you look stupid b/c there is really no difference in republican or democrat. The only difference is in talk, not action. They are the different sides of the same fucking coin. American politics is just as dumb as professional sports. It’s the red team vs the blue team and members of each team will defend their teammates no matter what, totally ignoring all logic and facts.

      Also, comparing a comedian to a political commentator is beyond ignorant.

  • some of all mankind

    I don’t think she should stick to political journalism, either.

    • TheTruthBurns

       Dylan,
      This may be the worst post I have ever seen. Must be a dream job to get paid for such a terrible article. First off, Greta never says Louis made these comments during his acts.Maybe YOU should listen or pay attention for your job. She says it’s his views on women(obviously conservative women) and a former VP Candidate. Now you would maybe have some credibility in this 4th grade rant if you didn’t bring up Rush. So Rush calls a woman from the left a slut, he denigrates all women. When Louis says something 10 times worse, he doesn’t because he has a loving wife and beautiful daughters he raves about? Seriously? You couldn’t do any better than that to hide your bias? I’m sure Rush has many women that work for him, or his own wife, that can say some nice things about him. So lets recap. You wrongfully said Greta thought this was part of his act, when she didn’t. You then somehow bring in rap music and the Bible to justify your insanely asinine point. And to top it off, try to link a friendship between Greta and the Palins as the reason why she is making this stand. Not because the man she has to listen to said, ” …her f***** retard making c****”. How about this Dylan, your hold yourself to a standard. You maybe garner some respect from chastising both sides, because both men made mistakes(despite them being entertainers).

      • Dylan

         i appreciate your response. a few clarifications.

        1. i never said Rush denigrates all women. that’s you putting words in my mouth. i brought up Rush in the context i set forth in my piece (subterfuge). i have made no judgment about Rush in the article; the judgment is on Greta. the timing for Greta to come out about this seems odd, since she’s had more than two months to say something. that was my point.

        2. i’m not trying to hide my bias. i’m not writing for the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal’s news section. this is an opinion piece on a comedy news site.

        3. i never said that Greta claimed  the Louis CK quotes she uses was from his act. i simply pointed out that they weren’t from his act. the idea is that these were off-the-cuff comments during one radio appearance and not part of his act, which would be more defining of his person. if he’s saying these things about Palin night after night, i feel that holds more weight and would damn Louis’ character much more severely. but as it is, Louis isn’t really a political comedian, and he’s said as much and like i said in the story, he regrets having said some of the things he has about Palin.

        4. i never brought up rap music. not sure what you’re talking about.

        5. i honestly don’t think linking the fact (yes, it’s a fact) that Greta and husband are very close with the Palins to the fact that Greta’s coming down on Louis (and citing ONLY things he’s said about Palin as the reason) that great of a leap. he claims Louis denigrates ALL women, yet can’t seem to mention another woman besides Palin.

        6. i think it’s strange you call what i’ve written a “fourth grade rant” but you call me asinine. like i said, i appreciate your comment and i appreciate that you feel strongly about it, but slinging names in the comments section is way more “fourth grade” than anything i’ve written above.

        • TheTruthBurns

           1. It’s quite clear your not writing for the New York Times, although you may fit in with their low credibility level due to their bias as well.The same New York Times that had to be bought out because they lost their standards. Maybe you should learn from that.  And because Greta didn’t respond for 2 months somehow makes this odd? LOL. She probably just found out what he said because he isn’t a relatively known guy among many people. Calm down.
          2. “That’s right, folks. These aren’t even lines from his act….. Van Susteren didn’t bother doing any contextual research before she unleashed her own hateful rant.”Excuse me? What the hell are you talking about here Dylan? First, you imply that she thought he said these quotes during his routine. She never said that. And if you didn’t mean that, don’t say, “These aren’t even lines from his act” and then make comments on her research abilities. What research did she do or not do?(is there an editor on this site?) Secondly,her own hateful rant? What was hateful of what she said?And if this is sarcasm or something, it’s communicated horribly. If you earnestly believe her proclamation was hateful, you are not even worth reading in the future due to your low rationale. And I do enjoy opposite opinions. That’s why I’m here. 
          3. The comedian thing doesn’t work when their off the cuff statements. In fact, you can make the case it’s worse. Its what he really thinks of her, not just for a laugh. “if he’s saying these things about Palin night after night, i feel that
          holds more weight and would damn Louis’ character much more severely.” The radio show comments and the airplane tweets were days apart. So it was day after day Dylan, and that goes against your own point. Not to mention he reiterated what he said on Bill Maher to get a laugh, and then chalked it up to alcohol and flying. This is a man you defend? And notice I haven’t stuck up for Rush. If enough people care and it gets his advertisements pulled, that’s the will of the people.
          4. I didn’t say Greta and the Palins aren’t friends. I said your trying to LINK that friendship with her making a stand. Once again, it shows your comprehensive skills are lacking. If you think me referring to your points as asinine and calling your post a 4th grade rant is “slinging names”(not sure what name I called you), I’d really like to see how mad you would be if a “comedian” said, ” “I want to rub my father’s c*** all over Michelle Obama’s fat t***”. I wonder how long you would think it odd if the other from the media would make a stand.
          You have a lot of work to do Dylan, I hope you shape up so you can go farther than laughspin. Even if you are only writing an “opinion piece”. Take care.

          • Sean

            You’re dumb.

          • Sean

            You’re dumb.

          • TheTruthBurns

             Interesting. What an elaborate and thoughtful response. I actually gave you a like for that. LOL

          • Ksim43

            2 &3. The “off the cuff” comments were made on a radio show that regularly has comics as guests and their presence is often for the purpose of comedic riffs. So whether part of a stage act or not, it is a comic working to entertain. It may not be to your taste, but that is what he is doing. Morver, CK’s act is centered around self-effacement and the ugly truths of modern life. Middle-aged housewives go up to him telling him how much they love his act and thank you for that catharsis. Because that’s a function of what a genre of comics do: talk about the hideous but hidden parts of humanity so we can observe it, laugh it, and through that catharsis realize that everyone is parts of good and bad.
            4. Context is essential in any discussion of language. And conflicts of interest are essential for anyone purporting to be a journalist. For Van Sustern to criticize an indivdiual for comments made, without disclosing relationship(s) to the object of those comments is disengenuous.

          • TheTruthBurns

             2&3. Middle aged house wives have their own minds. Some love him, some hate him. An athlete, salesman, or teacher aren’t always working, and neither is a comedian. I don’t care what his act is based around, I could say the same for Rush. Entertainment, no matter what style and delivery, has accountability and responsibility. I and many aren’t asking for the jobs of Louis C.K. and Rush, we are asking for simple standards. Call a spade a spade, and a mistake a mistake. Coughing it up to alcohol or being tired is a cop out. And apparently your opinion is different from the author of this work as well.
            4. Context is essential, even as a person that gives his opinion, let alone a journalist. All Van Sustern could do is voice her opinion based on facts, which she did. She wasn’t covering an event or story. She was attending a dinner in which invited HER, and not as a journalist to cover it. She made a stand based on her convictions(and the event could have went on without her), Louis C.K. could have made a stand as well. He didn’t. I pretty much have an idea why he didn’t, but I’m sure it’s different from yours.

      • Dylan

         i appreciate your response. a few clarifications.

        1. i never said Rush denigrates all women. that’s you putting words in my mouth. i brought up Rush in the context i set forth in my piece (subterfuge). i have made no judgment about Rush in the article; the judgment is on Greta. the timing for Greta to come out about this seems odd, since she’s had more than two months to say something. that was my point.

        2. i’m not trying to hide my bias. i’m not writing for the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal’s news section. this is an opinion piece on a comedy news site.

        3. i never said that Greta claimed  the Louis CK quotes she uses was from his act. i simply pointed out that they weren’t from his act. the idea is that these were off-the-cuff comments during one radio appearance and not part of his act, which would be more defining of his person. if he’s saying these things about Palin night after night, i feel that holds more weight and would damn Louis’ character much more severely. but as it is, Louis isn’t really a political comedian, and he’s said as much and like i said in the story, he regrets having said some of the things he has about Palin.

        4. i never brought up rap music. not sure what you’re talking about.

        5. i honestly don’t think linking the fact (yes, it’s a fact) that Greta and husband are very close with the Palins to the fact that Greta’s coming down on Louis (and citing ONLY things he’s said about Palin as the reason) that great of a leap. he claims Louis denigrates ALL women, yet can’t seem to mention another woman besides Palin.

        6. i think it’s strange you call what i’ve written a “fourth grade rant” but you call me asinine. like i said, i appreciate your comment and i appreciate that you feel strongly about it, but slinging names in the comments section is way more “fourth grade” than anything i’ve written above.

  • some of all mankind

    I don’t think she should stick to political journalism, either.

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